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Pop Times based on data up to end of Season 60
Data collated from users’ posts in sledging threads. Assumes an optimum number of Sports Psychologists are employed at your club.
NB There is speculation and growing evidence that nets might have a detrimental impact in certain areas:
1. Concentration and Consistency more likely to go down as a result of over-netting in young players.
2. Stamina starts to plop earlier (and possibly more quickly) in older players who are netted compared to those who are not.
Primary Nets
NB: includes data pops overlapping two or more ages. Age shown in data sheet is the average age they were for majority of training period. 353 pops collated for this data.
Age: | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 |
1 NET | |||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | 6.0 | ||||||||||
woeful to feeble | 7.0 | 8.0 | |||||||||
feeble to mediocre | 8.0 | 10.0 | |||||||||
mediocre to competent | 9.0 | 12.0 | |||||||||
competent to respectable | 9.7 | ||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 10.0 | 10.0 | 12.0 | ||||||||
proficient to strong | 10.0 | 9.0 | |||||||||
strong to superb | 10.8 | 10.8 | |||||||||
superb to quality | 11.5 | 10.3 | 12.0 | ||||||||
quality to remarkable | 11.0 | 11.3 | 13.0 | ||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 11.4 | 12.5 | |||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 11.4 | 11.8 | 13 | 15.0 | |||||||
exceptional to sensational | 12.0 | 12.5 | 14.0 | 13 | |||||||
sensational to exquisite | 11.5 | 12.7 | 13.8 | 23.0 | |||||||
exquisite to masterful | 17.0 | 15.7 | 17.0 | 19.8 | |||||||
masterful to miraculous | 21.5 | 22.5 | 29.5 | ||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | 14.0 | ||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | |||||||||||
elite to elite +1 | |||||||||||
elite +1 to elite +2 | |||||||||||
2 NETS | |||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 6 | ||||||||||
competent to respectable | 7.0 | ||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 7.2 | 7.0 | |||||||||
proficient to strong | 7.2 | 7.6 | |||||||||
strong to superb | 7.0 | 7.3 | |||||||||
superb to quality | 6.9 | 7.0 | |||||||||
quality to remarkable | 7.0 | 7.7 | 8.0 | ||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 7.8 | 7.7 | |||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 7.5 | 7.8 | 8.0 | ||||||||
exceptional to sensational | 8.0 | 8.0 | |||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 8.0 | 9.8 | 15.0 | 15.0 | |||||||
exquisite to masterful | 11.0 | 19.0 | |||||||||
masterful to miraculous | 11.0 | ||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | 15.0 | ||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | 19.0 | 20.0 | 27.0 | ||||||||
elite to elite +1 | 28.0 | 34.0 | |||||||||
elite +1 to elite +2 | |||||||||||
3 NETS | |||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||
mediocre to competent | |||||||||||
competent to respectable | 6.5 | ||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 7.0 | 7.0 | |||||||||
proficient to strong | 6.7 | 7.0 | |||||||||
strong to superb | 6.3 | 7.0 | |||||||||
superb to quality | 6.6 | ||||||||||
quality to remarkable | 6.5 | 7.0 | |||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | |||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | |||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | 8.0 | ||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 8.0 | ||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | 9.0 | ||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | 10.0 | ||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | 13.0 | 14.0 | |||||||||
phenomenal to elite | 13.0 | 18.0 | |||||||||
elite to elite +1 | |||||||||||
elite +1 to elite +2 | 23.0 | ||||||||||
4 NETS | |||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||
mediocre to competent | |||||||||||
competent to respectable | |||||||||||
respectable to proficient | |||||||||||
proficient to strong | |||||||||||
strong to superb | |||||||||||
superb to quality | |||||||||||
quality to remarkable | |||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | |||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | |||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | |||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 7.0 | ||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | |||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | |||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | |||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | 15.0 |
Secondary Nets
NB: includes data pops overlapping two or more ages. Age shown in data sheet is the average age they were for majority of training period. 250 pops collated for this data.
Age: | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 |
1 primary | |||||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | 18 | 12.7 | |||||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 16 | 14.3 | 9 | ||||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 17.3 | 14 | 13.3 | 11 | |||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 19.0 | 16.0 | 14.5 | 13.3 | |||||||||||||
proficient to strong | 20.0 | 14.0 | 13.0 | 12 | 10.5 | ||||||||||||
strong to superb | 14.0 | 12.3 | 12.0 | 11.5 | |||||||||||||
superb to quality | 13.0 | 11.3 | 10.5 | ||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | 12.3 | 11.0 | 10.0 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 11.0 | 11.0 | 9.3 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | 11.7 | 9.8 | 9.6 | ||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 11.5 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | 11.0 | 9.0 | 9 | ||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | 11.0 | 10.5 | 15.5 | 9.0 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 7.0 | ||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | 10.0 | 9.0 | 9.0 | 8.0 | |||||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | 9.0 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||||
elite to elite +1 | 8.0 | ||||||||||||||||
…to elite +2 | 9.0 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||||
…to elite +3 | 8.0 | 7.0 | |||||||||||||||
…to elite +4 | |||||||||||||||||
…to elite +5 | |||||||||||||||||
…to elite +6 | 9.0 | 8.0 | 7.0 | ||||||||||||||
…to elite +7 | 9.0 | 8.0 | |||||||||||||||
…to elite +8 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 7.0 | ||||||||||||||
…to elite +9 | 9.0 | 8.5 | |||||||||||||||
…to elite +10 | 8.0 | 9.0 | 8.0 | ||||||||||||||
…to elite +11 | 7.0 | ||||||||||||||||
1 primary + 1 field | |||||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | |||||||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 12.0 | 8 | |||||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 11.3 | 7.5 | |||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | 8 | ||||||||||||||||
strong to superb | 7 | ||||||||||||||||
superb to quality | 9.0 | 7 | |||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | 7.5 | ||||||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 7.0 | 7.0 | |||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 7.0 | 7.0 | 7.0 | ||||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | 6.5 | 6.0 | |||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 7.0 | 6.0 | 6.0 | ||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | 6.3 | ||||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | 6.0 | ||||||||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | |||||||||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | 5.0 | ||||||||||||||||
1 primary + 1 field + 1 wk | |||||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | 10 | ||||||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 10 | ||||||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 8.0 | ||||||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | |||||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | |||||||||||||||||
strong to superb | |||||||||||||||||
superb to quality | |||||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | |||||||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 5.0 | ||||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 4.0 | ||||||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | |||||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | 4.0 | ||||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | 4.0 | ||||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | |||||||||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | |||||||||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | |||||||||||||||||
1 primary + 1 wk | |||||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | |||||||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | |||||||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | |||||||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | |||||||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 10.5 | ||||||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 11.0 | ||||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | 13.0 | ||||||||||||||||
strong to superb | 9.0 | ||||||||||||||||
superb to quality | 10.0 | 9.0 | |||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | 9.0 | ||||||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | 7.0 | ||||||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | 6.0 | ||||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | |||||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | |||||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | 6.0 |
Wicket Keeping Nets
NB: includes data pops overlapping two or more ages. Age shown in data sheet is the average age they were for majority of training period. 30 pops collated for this data.
Age: | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 |
1 WK net | |||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||
abysmal to woeful | 3 | ||||||
woeful to feeble | 4 | ||||||
feeble to mediocre | 4 | 5.0 | |||||
mediocre to competent | |||||||
competent to respectable | 6.0 | 6 | |||||
respectable to proficient | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11.0 | |||
proficient to strong | 6.0 | 6 | 9 | ||||
strong to superb | 6.0 | 6.0 | 8 | 10 | |||
superb to quality | 7.0 | 9 | |||||
quality to remarkable | 7.0 | 7.0 | 9 | ||||
remarkable to wonderful | 6.0 | 7.0 | 10 | ||||
wonderful to exceptional | 7.0 | ||||||
exceptional to sensational | 7.0 |
Fielding Nets
NB: includes data pops overlapping two or more ages. Age shown in data sheet is the average age they were for majority of training period. 61 pops collated for this data.
Age: | 17.0 | 18.0 | 19.0 | 20.0 | 21.0 | 22.0 | 23.0 | 24.0 | 25.0 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 |
1 field | |||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | 2.4 | 4.0 | 5.0 | 7.0 | |||||||||||
woeful to feeble | 4.0 | 6.0 | 8.0 | ||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | 4.6 | ||||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 5.0 | 5.0 | |||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 12.0 | ||||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | |||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | |||||||||||||||
strong to superb | 11.0 | ||||||||||||||
superb to quality | |||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | |||||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | |||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | |||||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | |||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | |||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | |||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | |||||||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | |||||||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | |||||||||||||||
1 team field | |||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | 10.0 | 10.0 | 10.0 | ||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | 10.0 | 10.0 | 10.0 | ||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | 10.0 | 10.0 | |||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 10.0 | 10.0 | 10.0 | ||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||
strong to superb | |||||||||||||||
superb to quality | |||||||||||||||
quality to remarkable | |||||||||||||||
remarkable to wonderful | 10.0 | ||||||||||||||
wonderful to exceptional | |||||||||||||||
exceptional to sensational | |||||||||||||||
sensational to exquisite | |||||||||||||||
exquisite to masterful | |||||||||||||||
masterful to miraculous | |||||||||||||||
miraculous to phenomenal | |||||||||||||||
phenomenal to elite | |||||||||||||||
1 field + 1 team field | |||||||||||||||
worthless to abysmal | |||||||||||||||
abysmal to woeful | 2.0 | ||||||||||||||
woeful to feeble | 2.0 | ||||||||||||||
feeble to mediocre | 3.0 | 3.0 | |||||||||||||
mediocre to competent | 4.0 | 4.0 | |||||||||||||
competent to respectable | 3.0 | 3.0 | |||||||||||||
respectable to proficient | 4.0 | ||||||||||||||
proficient to strong | 4.0 |
Stamina Nets
Age | Nets | Skill | from | to | Weeks |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
17-35 | TS + 1 S | S | Any | Any | 4 |
17-35 | TS | S | Any | Any | 10 |
39 | 0 | S | 9 | 8 | 2 |
39 | 0 | S | 8 | 7 | 1 |
39 | 0 | S | 7 | 6 | 2 |
39 | 0 | S | 6 | 5 | 1 |
The way to get 4 week stamina pops is with 1 team and 1 individual stamina net, that combo is more powerful than 2 individual stamina nets.
Stamina plops don’t begin until 36 (unless the player is receiving nets – see below). We know this from having oldies of all ages on superb* and they only decline from that from age 36 onwards. 35 year olds remain on superb*.
There is speculation and growing evidence that netting an older player will lead to their stamina starting to plop earlier (and possibly more quickly).
Single Net at a Glance
The below table has been put together by GranTorino as a reasonably accurate picture of training times as we currently understand them for single nets. It must be noted that the numbers in this table are an average and can vary drastically depending on the skill level of a player*. For example the table shows that the average time for a 21 year old is 13 weeks. This seems to be correct if they are popping from quality to remarkable, but at the more extreme skill levels this number changes (Only 8 weeks from woeful to feeble, and 17 weeks from exquisite to masterful).
*For more detail on pop times in relation to skill level as well as age keep scrolling below the table.
Age | Primary | Secondary | Field | WK |
17 | 10 | 18 | 4 | 4 |
18 | 10.5 | 16 | 5 | 5 |
19 | 11 | 14 | 6 | 6 |
20 | 12 | 13 | 7 | 7 |
21 | 13 | 12 | 8 | 8 |
22 | 15 | 11 | 9 | 9 |
23 | 17 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
24 | 20 | 9 | 11 | 11 |
25 | 23 | 8 | 12 | 12 |
26 | 26 | 7 | 13 | 13 |
Multiple Net Experiment
Four near-identical 17 year olds pulled in week 1 of Season 58 were given 1, 2, 3 & 4 nets consistently as follows throughout the proceeding two seasons. The difference in skill level rises can be seen:
player | Pearce | Muwalo | Kuwintas | Mamadzai |
nets | 3 Ba, 1 F | 2 Bo, 1 F | 1 Bo, 1 F | 1 Ba |
S58 wk 1 wage / age | £484 / 17 | £485 / 17 | £460 / 17 | £500 / 17 |
18/03/23 | 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 1 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 1 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 1 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 3123 | 3443 | 3025 | 3282 |
FORM | 7,7 | 7,7 | 7,7 | 7,7 |
25/03/23 | 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 1 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 3647 | 3751 | 3200 | 3434 |
FORM | 8,8 | 8,6 | 7,7 | 7,7 |
01/04/2023 | 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 3910 | 3771 | 3356 | 3689 |
FORM | 8,9 | 8,5 | 6,7 | 8,7 |
08/04/2023 | 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 2 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 4187 | 3927 | 3699 | 3833 |
FORM | 9,8 | 7,5 | 6,9 | 9,6 |
15/04/2023 | 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 3 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 3 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 3 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 9,8 | 7,5 | 7,10 | 10,5 |
FORM | 4407 | 4167 | 3994 | 3981 |
22/04/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 5, 1, 1, 3 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 3 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 3 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 4676 | 4441 | 4390 | 4202 |
FORM | 9,8 | 8,5 | 8,10 | 10,6 |
29/04/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 5, 1, 1, 3 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 3 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 3 | 5, 1, 6, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 9,8 | 8,5 | 9,10 | 10,7 |
FORM | 4942 | 4744 | 4690 | 4512 |
06/05/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 6, 1, 1, 3 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 3 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 6, 3 | 5, 1, 7, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 8,8 | 8,5 | 10,10 | 10,8 |
FORM | 5254 | 5076 | 5050 | 4752 |
13/05/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 6, 1, 1, 4 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 6, 6, 4 | 5, 1, 7, 5, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 9,9 | 9,7 | 10,9 | 10,9 |
FORM | 5867 | 5768 | 5214 | 4928 |
20/05/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 6, 1, 1, 4 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 10,9 | 9,8 | 10,10 | 10,7 |
FORM | 6353 | 6377 | 5613 | 4939 |
27/05/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 6, 1, 1, 4 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 6906 | 6693 | 5941 | 4800 |
FORM | 10,10 | 8,9 | 10,10 | 10,4 |
03/06/2023 | 5, 2, 7, 6, 1, 1, 4 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 4 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 7360 | 7109 | 6318 | 5003 |
FORM | 10,10 | 8,9 | 10,10 | 10,4 |
10/06/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 1, 4 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 7779 | 7533 | 6645 | 5137 |
FORM | 10,10 | 8,10 | 10,10 | 10,4 |
17/06/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 1, 5 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 6, 5 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 7941 | 7899 | 6748 | 5459 |
FORM | 10,8 | 7,10 | 10,8 | 10,5 |
24/06/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 2, 5 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 6, 5 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 8268 | 8353 | 6745 | 5975 |
FORM | 10,8 | 7,10 | 6,10 | 10,7 |
01/07/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 2, 5 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 6, 5 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 8073 | 9183 | 6941 | 6306 |
FORM | 8,5 | 9,10 | 5,10 | 10,9 |
S59 wk1 wage / age | £1597 / 18 | £1410 / 18 | £989 / 18 | £1047 / 18 |
08/07/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 2, 5 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 6, 5 | 4, 2, 4, 1, 7, 6, 5 | 5, 1, 7, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 8277 | 9711 | 7266 | 6402 |
FORM | 8,5 | 9,10 | 5,10 | 8,10 |
15/07/2023 | 5, 2, 8, 6, 1, 2, 5 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 6, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 1, 7, 6, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 8715 | 9824 | 7563 | 6789 |
FORM | ||||
22/07/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 6, 1, 2, 6 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 7, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 1, 7, 6, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 9242 | 10184 | 7951 | 7062 |
FORM | 8,4 | 6,10 | 4,10 | 10,9 |
29/07/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 6 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 8, 7, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 1, 8, 7, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 10360 | 10687 | 8148 | 7362 |
FORM | 9,5 | 7,9 | 3,10 | 10,10 |
05/08/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 6 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 9, 7, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 1, 8, 7, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 11275 | 11733 | 8654 | 7648 |
FORM | 10,6 | 8,10 | 3,10 | 10,10 |
12/08/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 6 | 5, 4, 1, 1, 9, 7, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 1, 8, 7, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 12100 | 12164 | 9428 | 7841 |
FORM | ||||
19/08/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 6 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 6 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 6 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 12880 | 12760 | 10437 | 7924 |
FORM | 10,7 | 8,9 | 7,10 | 8,10 |
26/08/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 7 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 7 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 13479 | 14004 | 11166 | 7854 |
FORM | 10,7 | 9,10 | 8,10 | 6,10 |
02/09/2023 | 5, 2, 9, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 7 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 7 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 14166 | 14931 | 11735 | 7624 |
FORM | 10,7 | 10,10 | 8,10 | 5,9 |
09/09/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 7 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 7 | 5, 1, 8, 6, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 14918 | 15700 | 11537 | 7661 |
FORM | ? | ? | ? | ? |
16/09/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 7 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 7 | 5, 1, 8, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 16214 | 16391 | 11928 | 7840 |
FORM | 9,9 | 10,10 | 6,9 | 4,9 |
23/09/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 9, 7, 7 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 7 | 5, 1, 9, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 17610 | 17030 | 12089 | 7984 |
FORM | 10,9 | 9,10 | 5,8 | 4,8 |
30/09/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 7 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 10, 7, 8 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 8, 7, 8 | 5, 1, 9, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 18675 | 17652 | 13471 | 7910 |
FORM | 10,10 | 9,9 | 7,9 | 4,6 |
07/10/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 8 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 10, 8, 8 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 9, 7, 8 | 5, 1, 9, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 19049 | 17779 | 14401 | 8071 |
FORM | 10,8 | 8,8 | 8, 10 | 4,6 |
14/10/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 7, 1, 2, 8 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 10, 8, 8 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 9, 8, 8 | 5, 1, 9, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 19716 | 18330 | 15537 | 8391 |
FORM | 10,7 | 9,8 | 9,10 | 6,8 |
21/10/2023 | 5, 2, 10, 8, 1, 2, 8 | 5, 4, 1, 2, 10, 8, 8 | 4, 2, 3, 2, 9, 8, 8 | 5, 1, 9, 7, 1, 1, 2 |
BTR | 20552 | 19568 | 16373 | 9476 |
FORM | 10,7 | 9,8 | 9,10 | 6,8 |
S60 wk1 wage / age | £5610 / 19 | £4651 / 19 | £2512 / 19 | £2417 / 19 |
28/10/2023 | 5,2,11,8,1,2,8 | 5,4,1,2,10,8,8 | 4,2,3,2,9,8,8 | 5,1,9,7,1,1,2 |
BTR | 21627 | 21400 | 16798 | 10039 |
FORM | 9,9 | 10,9 | 10,9 | 6,9 |
DECEMBER 2022 UPDATE
On 10th December a news item stated:
- Since we initially announced how the new training system would work, we’ve actually made some small changes to the algorithm. Players of enormously high skills may see their skills starting to drop as young as 30. Most players will not.
- Additionally, we have now decided that players should experience no more than one visual level of skill decrease each week.
On 3rd December Allan stated:
- Players will be susceptible to skill declines from the age of 30.
- For most players these drops will be so small as to be inperceptible until they reach around 36/37.
- For V high skill levels, these plops might actually start to show. The higher the skill level the higher the plop.
- Skill drops will increase exponentially the older the players get.
NOVEMBER 2022 UPDATE
In the Q&A session on 20th November 2022 and updated further on 25th November Allan confirmed the following will now take effect:
- As well as training being dependant both on age and current skill, the number of training sessions applied to the player of each specific type will continue to have an impact, but additional nets will have a different effect to previously. Apart from that, no other factors are at play. -Confirms that there is to be no training benefit from playing at this point.
- Team training will be impacted by squad size, specifically if your squad is larger than 30 players. If you try and train your entire team when you have a squad bigger than 30 you will see the effectiveness of the training reduced (but also the PFL hit reduced for each player).
- If your squad has more than 30 then every player will receive reduced benefit of squad training. (i.e. it is not the case that 30 still receive the full effect with the remaining number getting reduced benefit. They all get same reduced benefit.)
- A player receiving both an individual and team training net of the same skill will get the full training benefit from both nets. (Only individual nets are taken into account for the dimishing returns.)
- Sports psychologists do not attend squad training sessions, they only attend individual net sessions. A squad fielding session does not affect any skills other than fielding.
- There will be some changes to the speed that secondaries change, along with the primary skills.
- The skill level of a player will have an impact on the age that the plops will start to kick in.
- Training speed is different for different skills
- Stamina training is no longer independent of age.
- Will concentration and consistency training still increase with age? Yes and No.
- Diminishing returns on multiple nets (second net of a type gives less training than the first, third net gives even less, etc.) no longer work the way they did previously
- The impact of sports psychologists attending the first of every time of net session except stamina stays the same.
- You will have the option to have more than one of each team training net (stamina or fielding), but team training will only be applied to the first instance of each skill.
- Multiple nets for one player on a primary (eg 3 batting nets) will have the a different rate of return to previously.
- There are no plans in the near future regarding further player development/changes
- There are no changes to the way that PFL hits from nets work.
- There are no changes to the way that experience from nets work.
- There is no random element to training, where some players might train slightly faster than others.
OCTOBER 2022 UPDATE
A news post on 26th October 2022 confirmed that as of Season 57:
- Players will start to experience skill decreases later in life. The decreases will start to happen at a different rate depending on the skill level of the player. In effect, highly skilled players will start to see their skills dimish earlier than those less skilled players and at a quicker rate, all be it later in life than they currently do.
- Training Speeds I – training speeds will no longer have a linear relationship with player age. Younger players will still train faster, but the speed of that training will no longer decrease at such a steady rate across their career. The summary of this change is that younger players will train faster than older players, but the change between the two will happen at different rate depending on the players age.
- Training Speeds II – training speeds will also no longer be linear across the entire skill range. It will be more difficult/take longer to level up at higher skill levels that it will at lower skill levels. Basically this means that training players of the same age from mediocre to competent will be a lot quicker than from sensational to exquisite.
- Team Training – we will introduce the option to sacrifice net sessions for team training sessions for Stamina and fielding training. On nets of this type, instead of selecting an individual player as the trainee, you will be able to select entire team. This will have a smaller effect than training an individual, but will benefit your entire squad.
This blog post from just over a year earlier had indicated these changes would come. For the time being we will keep the old training information below but please note this will be out of date from seaon 57 onwards (26/11/2022). Once enough data has been gathered this page will be updated to reflect the new findings around training. If you have any such findings please submit them to Discodinho (manager of Gloucester Gipsies) on Battrick.
INFORMATON PRIOR TO SEASON 57:
Coaches
Coaches can be used to train each of the ‘primary’ skills a player has:
- Batting
- Bowling
- Wicket Keeping
- Fielding
- Stamina
There is no limit as to how many of each of these coaches you can hire, but there is a limit as to their effectiveness.
If you train the same player using more than one primary skill net, the effectiveness of the 2nd net is only 50% of the first net. And the 3rd net is only 50% as effective and the 2nd net.
Although you can hire more than 10 coaches, you can only use 10 – the rest just suck up wages and do nothing.
Lets say the reduction in effectiveness for subsequent coaches (ie. more than one primary net on same player) is 50%:
Net | Effectiveness of this net | Total skill nets received | Contribution by this net |
1st | 100% | 1.00 | 1.00 |
2nd | 50% | 1.50 | 0.50 |
3rd | 25% | 1.75 | 0.25 |
4th | 12.5% | 1.875 | 0.125 |
5th | 6.25% | 1.940 | 0.0625 |
6th | 3.125% | 1.97125 | 0.003125 |
7th | 1.5625% | 1.9875 | 0.015625 |
8th | 0.78125% | 1.98828125 | 0.0078125 |
9th | 0.390625% | 1.9921875 | 0.00390625 |
10th | 0.1953125% | 1.994140625 | 0.001953125 |
The below image is the most recent and therefore probably most accurate reflection of pop times (February 2018 – thanks to Afghan_Bluey). Click the image for a larger view. The previous estimates are still available below.
Batting or Bowling
The tables below contain approximate number of weeks it takes to train a player up one skill level using the prescribed number of nets.
Edited Sep 2017: Thanks to Afghan_Bluey for more accurate updates.
Age | 1 net | 2 nets | 3 nets | 4 nets |
17 | 11.1 | 7.4 | 6.3 | 5.9 |
18 | 12.3 | 8.2 | 7 | 6.6 |
19 | 13.6 | 9.9 | 8.2 | ??? |
20 | 14.9 | 11.2 | 9.2 | ??? |
21 | 16.2 | 12.5 | 10.3 | ??? |
22 | 17.5 | 13.8 | 11.4 | ??? |
23 | 18.8 | 15.1 | 12.5 | ??? |
24 | 20.1 | 16.4 | 13.6 | ??? |
25 | 21.4 | 17.7 | 14.7 | ??? |
26 | 22.7 | 19 | ??? | ??? |
27 | 24 | 20.3 | ??? | ??? |
28 | 25.3 | 21.6 | ??? | ??? |
29 | 26.6 | 22.9 | ??? | ??? |
30 | 27.9 | 24.2 | ??? | ??? |
31 | 29.2 | 25.5 | ??? | ??? |
32 | 30.5 | 26.8 | ??? | ??? |
33 | 31.8 | 28.1 | ??? | ??? |
34 | 33.1 | 29.4 | ??? | ??? |
35 | 34.4 | 30.7 | ??? | ??? |
Wicket Keeping
Edited Sep 2017: Thanks to Afghan_Bluey for more accurate updates.
Age | 1 net | 2 nets |
17 | 7.4 | 4.9 |
18 | 8.6 | 7.3 |
19 | 9.9 | 8.2 |
20 | 11.2 | 9.2 |
21 | 12.5 | 10.3 |
22 | 13.8 | 11.4 |
23 | 15.1 | 12.5 |
24 | 16.4 | 13.6 |
25 | 17.7 | 14.7 |
26 | 19 | 15.7 |
27 | 20.3 | 17 |
28 | 21.6 | 18.3 |
29 | 22.9 | 19.6 |
30 | 24.2 | 20.9 |
31 | 25.5 | 22.2 |
32 | 26.8 | 23.5 |
33 | 28.1 | 24.8 |
34 | 29.4 | 26.1 |
35 | 30.7 | 27.1 |
Fielding
Age | 1 net | 2 nets |
17 | 6.1 | 4.2 |
18 | 7.2 | 5.3 |
19 | 8.3 | 6.4 |
20 | 9.4 | 7.5 |
21 | 10.5 | 8.6 |
22 | 11.6 | 9.7 |
23 | 12.7 | 10.8 |
24 | 13.8 | 11.9 |
25 | 14.9 | 13.1 |
26 | 16 | 14.1 |
27 | 17.1 | 15.2 |
28 | 18.2 | 16.3 |
29 | 19.3 | 17.4 |
30 | 20.4 | 18.5 |
31 | 21.5 | 19.6 |
32 | 22.6 | 20.7 |
33 | 23.7 | 21.8 |
34 | 24.8 | 22.9 |
35 | 25.9 | 24 |
Consistency & Concentration
To receive Concentration and Consistency skill training, you must have Sport Psychologists (around 5-7 is optimal).
Concentration training is only received if you are training batting or keeping or fielding.
Consistency training is only received if you are training bowling or keeping or fielding.
Edited Sep 2017: Thanks to Afghan_Bluey for more accurate updates.
Nets used | Conc ‘nets’ received | Cons ‘nets’ received |
BA | 1 | 0 |
BO | 0 | 1 |
(WK or F) | 1 | 1 |
BA + (WK or F) | 2 | 1 |
BO + (WK or F) | 1 | 2 |
WK + F | 2 | 2 |
BA + WK + F | 3 | 2 |
BO + WK + F | 2 | 3 |
BA + BO + (WK or F) | 2 | 2 |
BA + BO + WK + F | 3 | 3 |
Age | BA/BO/WK/F/BA+BO | BO+F/BA+F/BA+BO+F/BO+WK/BA+WK | BA+WK+F/BO+WK+F |
17 | 14.2 | 7.1 | 4.7 |
18 | 13.6 | 6.8 | 4.5 |
19 | 13 | 6.5 | 4.3 |
20 | 12.4 | 6.2 | 4.1 |
21 | 11.8 | 5.9 | 3.9 |
22 | 11.2 | 5.6 | 3.7 |
23 | 10.6 | 5.3 | 3.5 |
24 | 10 | 5 | 3.3 |
25 | 9.4 | 4.7 | 3.1 |
26 | 8.8 | 4.4 | 2.9 |
27 | 8.2 | 4.1 | 2.7 |
28 | 7.6 | 3.8 | 2.5 |
29 | 7 | 3.5 | 2.3 |
30 | 6.4 | 3.2 | 2.1 |
31 | 5.8 | 2.9 | ? |
32 | 5.2 | 2.6 | ? |
33 | 4.6 | ? | ? |
34 | 4 | ? | ? |
35 | 4 | ? | ? |
Stamina
Number of weeks to improve a whole Stamina skill level for players aged 17-32:
- 6 weeks with 1 Stamina net
- 4 weeks with 2 Stamina nets
- 3 weeks with 3 Stamina nets
After the player turns 33 years of age, stamina decay will slow down the rate of improvement from those figures shown here. Click here for further stamina training speeds for players aged 33 and over.